I'm looking at these from the perspective of the races themselves - not "this is objective truth" but kind of "This is how you see yourself." And so all of these seem perfectly fine... except Forsaken. "Protect the living" hasn't ever, ever, ever been their goal. It was survival in spite of the living. And occasionally using the living - ie the Horde - for protection, support, or some other practical purpose. The odd exception, like Faol, is notable for being an exception to pretty much every other Forsaken.The only way this works, imo, is if the Shadowlands novel and pre-patch activities completely and totally remake the Forsaken. Which they might be intending to do? But if they aren't drastically changing the entire playable race's outlook and philosophy, this is completely silly. Even handwaving the entire Forsaken questing experience in the Eastern Kingdoms (with planted human crops, etc) as happening in the past and we've totally changed in the past five years, totally, it's still silly.
New Horde Player Intro Lines in ShadowlandsTL,DR"We do bad things, but we were good guys all along!" ;)
"Though shunned by the living, you tirelessly strive to protect them." A direct blow to stormwind humans.
Horde Shadowlands lore recap.https://i.ytimg.com/vi/474VUgCkb2Q/hqdefault.jpg
"Though shunned by the living, you tirelessly strive to protect them.""Though the orcs came to Azeroth as conquerors, your kind has shed the thirsty ways of old"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *deep breath* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAWait, you're serious? In that case, let me laugh even harder
I see the BfA-lvl of writing continue
I'm not a fan of this change, atleast acknowledge what the horde did and move on to make them "Heroic" from there instead of painting them as the polar opposite of what the story has portrayed them as.My reasoning being that most of the horde stood by and fought for Sylvanas and her genocidal campaign until she literally told them they're nothing to her. Some of these lines don't really reflect the mindset of the faction that blizzard established.Orcs not being bloodthirsty since they broke off from the original horde and it's intentions yet they've committed war crimes beyond count, including a genocide -very- recently.Blood elves saying they toil to ensure Azeroth never experiences what happened to them (the decimation and near eradication of their people and the destruction of their capital by an undead warlord who then raised a good chunk of them into undeath, which is literally what happened to the nelfs), but they were still okay with staying with Sylvanas even after what she did. It comes off as really hypocritical and untrue to me.And the forsaken suddenly being "the unappreciated protectors of the living". Really. The entire race changed their philosophy overnight.. ? Most seemed pretty damn loyal to Sylvanas and her ideals. Maybe Calia changed some of their minds, sure, but I very much doubt she changed most of them.I dunno if it's just me, but I can't say it feels very nice to have the lore and acts the horde committed be brushed aside in favor of painting them in a heroic light. It wouldn't be hard to just acknowledge it and then say what each respective race's philosophy and direction is moving forward, as a result of what happened.
"Though shunned by the living, you tirelessly strive to protect them."...Excuse me?
these are all terrible but leave it to californians to pussify something
So, Teldrasil never happened blizz? Bad writing is bad writing guys.
Great... Red Alliance.... What's next? Sylvanas coming back to life and taking care of orphans and puppies?
The new Forsaken one sucks, I prefer the old one 10 times.I guess this is what we get when you get a Lead Narrative Designer that "just vibes" instead of actually doing this with years of lore up until MoP.
#NotMyForsaken:p
The undead one's spawned so many meme's already, it's completely laughable.
Especially the Undead, but the Orc lines aswell need some serious rework.
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