Imagine putting a giant target on yourself and then being upset you got targeted
If dispelling a player is bannable then goodbye world pvp for good.
Hopefully that GM gets terminated, losing your account to something as petty as this would be unimaginable
What a shocker blizzard falsely banning people AGAIN....
If griefing/camping a player is a bannable offense only if you are streamsniping, that's dumb. I get that it was overturned but still when was that ever a thing?
This was an abuse of power by the GM imo and I hope some form of action is taken.Using an ability on another player in a PvP realm should never be a ban-able offense regardless of what you do.They chose to be in a PvP realm, so just because you get targeted when it's not convenient for you doesn't make it greifing.Greifing would be stealing a Mythic Raid lockout and holding it hostage so that the guild can't progress, like what happened in one of the WF races.But using an ability tied to your class should never be ban worthy regardless of the situation. That would be like banning a rogue for continually sapping you or a druid for using entangling roots on you continually.If you don't want to be dispelled then don't play on an open world PvP realm lol.
I really disagree with the end of the post; Perspective does NOT matter here. Punishing someone on suspicion of stream sniping with the ONLY evidence being that the guy is a streamer is basically giving streamers immunity to world pvp with the ability to call for bans at their whim. Glad at least Blizz reversed it and realized how ridiculous it was.
So I am a bit confused here: Dispelling an enemy player flagged for PvP is griefing? Strip away the person being a streamer because that point, to me, is irrelevant. If another player came strolling through and was dispelled in the same manner, would the player who did the dispell be banned?I understand these buffs are important but is that not the risk you taking flagging for PvP?
i wonder if that buff is "so important" why is it dispellable to begin with?
Imagine how many poor players got banned by this nobody streamer and his gm friend that we don't know.
Let me go play on a PvP server and then get the person who Dispells my buffs banned, despite Dispels being an important part of PvP. By that logic, a Shaman spamming Purge to counter another class' HoTs or Buffs is bannable. Its a completely acceptable strategy, period.It is a risk he accepted the moment he joined a PvP Server. Would it have been different if the Dragon Slayer buff was removed by getting killed? No, then I don't see why that dispel was such a big deal to get the other banned.
I think there's a lot of hypocrisy coming from both sides, stemming from a desire to get vindictive revenge for a perceived wrongdoing. In the reddit post, there were a lot of people clamouring to try to get the GM fired from their job and to try to 'destroy' the streamer through boycotts and spreading negative information about him to tarnish his reputation effectively to 'ban' him from the platform. From my understanding, the streamer himself was complaining about being wrongly banned a few weeks ago (for transferring gold to his alt account) so he knows how bad it must feel to get banned, and yet he would so easily be willing to ban someone else for such a small issue.Personally I think it was just a simple misunderstanding and no one should get banned, fired or punished in any way over it. The streamer genuinely believed he was being griefed (in the reddit post he mentions several weeks of history of griefing from the dispeller's guild and comments from that guild specifically admitting that they deliberately grief the streamer's guild members). I think the GM did move too quickly in meting out the ban, for which he should receive a warning and be "trained" on the proper way to handle such things, but I think firing him is way too harsh and vindictive. The banned player should receive compensation (in the form of game time, probably) for their inconvenience.
The absolute state of classic lmao, if that guy doesn't like to be interacted with by enemy players, he should be playing on a pve realm.Alternatively, just kill him, skellies can't purge. If you have a crew to summon you, surely you can manage to take one player out?
Wow, this guy is complaining that he's streaming his game and it's unfair for people to watch him. Then complaining that it's unfair for people to attack him when he's flagged for PvP, so he goes and finds a GM that he knows because he's a streamer, and gets someone banned? That's really messed up. I can't say I'm shocked given the direction blizzard is going in to see that attacking someone in PvP is now considered harassment. Well, payback is really going to suck for this guy.
what a snowflakes OMEGALUL
There's no nuance here, the dude was playing the game as intended and was punished for it.Dispelling is a part of the game, to punish someone for using it is insanity, regardless of context.If you have the tool, that's how you should open up every PvP encounter as it removes power from your opponent.It's a smart move.This GM should face punishment of some sort for this.
I agree with everyone here. While I understand it's annoying to be targeted "Because I'm a streamer!", that's kinda the risk you took by doing so. I remember a time in World of Tanks, I was playing a game against a streamer on the opposite side (and this streamer actually said "you are live on youtube!" in chat). Knowing this, I of course made it my mission to take out the streamer. Now, ON MY HONOR, I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR I DID NOT STREAM SNIPE. But I was accused of it just the same. If you're a streamer and you feel like people are going out of their way to take you down, that's kinda fair game, you know. Even if someone is stream sniping you, well, you're the one who is streaming, aren't you? You might say it's unethical to stream snipe, but I would not say it is cheating because I'm not manipulating anything to get an unfair advantage. If you start streaming in an online game where people can and will take advantage of that, well, whose fault is it? I'm not saying don't stream, but I am saying you put yourself at that risk, and you know it too.
imagine making a vanilla wow private server and then charging people money to play on it and putting in a buff limit