if we missed timer by a 1 min and was untimed and they changed it to a longer timer and now is considered timed does it count towards the all timed 10s achivement?
I feel like in Shadowlands M+ timer isn't really big deal. You can wipe 2x and you still can time the key. But your team has to be able to eventually kill the boss. For that you need knowledge of encounter and dps, but we are at the begining of SL and most community lacks both.
This, honestly wasn't enough. If you compare it to the other dungeons, this dungeon is miles ahead in difficulty. I ran a +15 World tour over the weekend, downed every dungeon but this one in the first attempt. I pugged, so I played with a bunch of different people and everyone had the same experience. Might have been add spacing and Spiteful, but still, it shouldn't be like this.